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1 researchok  Thu, May 10, 2012 11:38:23am
In New Quantum Experiment, Effect Happens Before Cause

So can now get paid before I do the work?

2 shutdown  Thu, May 10, 2012 12:14:01pm

re: #1 researchok

Well perhaps you can retire before engaging in any gainful employment, at all! All it needs is two people to decide afterwards that it will always have been this way.

3 Daniel Ballard  Thu, May 10, 2012 12:40:19pm

Weren't these comments here before the Page? LOL

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, May 10, 2012 12:43:50pm

[Link: arxiv.org...]

With our ideal realization of the delayed-choice entanglement swapping gedanken experiment, we have
demonstrated a generalization of Wheeler’s “delayed-choice” tests, going from the wave-particle duality of a
single particle to the entanglement-separability duality of two particles
39
. Whether these two particles are
entangled or separable has been decided after they have been measured. If one views the quantum state as a
real physical object, one could get the seemingly paradoxical situation that future actions appear as having an
influence on past and already irrevocably recorded events. However, there is never a paradox if the quantum
state is viewed as to be no more than a “catalogue of our knowledge”
2
. Then the state is a probability list for all
possible measurement outcomes, the relative temporal order of the three observer’s events is irrelevant and no
physical interactions whatsoever between these events, especially into the past, are necessary to explain the
delayed-choice entanglement swapping.
What, however, is important is to relate the lists of Alice, Bob and
Victor’s measurement results. On the basis of Victor’s measurement settings and results, Alice and Bob can
group their earlier and locally totally random results into subsets which each have a different meaning and
interpretation. This formation of subsets is independent of the temporal order of the measurements. According
to Wheeler, Bohr said: “No elementary phenomenon is a phenomenon until it is a registered phenomenon.”
5, 7
We would like to extend this by saying: “Some registered phenomena do not have a meaning unless they are
put in relationship with other registered phenomena.”

5 Bob Levin  Thu, May 10, 2012 12:58:53pm

re: #1 researchok

And avoid traffic.

6 Locker  Thu, May 10, 2012 3:10:28pm

My wife can have my favorite dinner ready before I even know what I want! I love it!

(Yea right, like she even cooks...)

7 b_snark  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:16:32pm

This should twist a few literalist knickers into knots.

8 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 10, 2012 4:22:24pm

"Time Is What Prevents Everything From Happening At Once.."
- John Wheeler

[Link: developeronline.blogspot.com...]

9 KingKenrod  Thu, May 10, 2012 5:22:03pm

Here's a good non-academic description of the experiment:

[Link: arstechnica.com...]

10 Bob Levin  Thu, May 10, 2012 7:59:55pm

re: #7 Cathartic Expression

When it comes to time, everyone is a literalist. I think it's a condition we, humanity, have to grow out of.


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